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Dr. Ashish Jha, former White House COVID-19 response chief, has shifted his stance on the pandemic’s origin, now believing a lab leak is more likely than a natural animal spillover — a view he’s held since his time in government. He stresses that only Chinese officials can claim certainty, calling for transparency and accountability from Beijing. While acknowledging the evidence remains circumstantial and open to interpretation, Jha insists the leak was accidental, not intentional. His evolving position reflects broader shifts in public discourse, where early dismissal of the lab leak theory gave way to growing skepticism over media narratives and institutional credibility — highlighting how complex, contested, and consequential determining the virus’s true origin has become.

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