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Kathy Ruemmler, former Obama White House Counsel and Goldman Sachs legal chief, faced intense scrutiny after testifying about her ties to Jeffrey Epstein, defending her actions while admitting she didn’t know if Virginia Giuffre was a victim — sparking outrage from Giuffre’s family who called her testimony a cover-up. Ruemmler claimed she never saw anyone under 18 and dismissed Epstein’s emails as jokes or deflections, insisting she only interacted with him professionally through a shared client. Her resignation from Goldman Sachs followed revelations of her past connection to Epstein, which she disclosed before joining the firm. Critics argue her testimony undermines accountability, while survivors credit Giuffre’s courage for exposing powerful predators.

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