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The 14 Rules of the Discernment of Spirits with Fr. Timothy Gallagher with Kris McGregor
Episode Ten: Rule Eight – Patience in Time of Spiritual Desolation
Episode 10 -The Eighth Rule:
Let him who is in desolation labor to be in patience, which is contrary to the vexations which come to him: and let him think that he will soon be consoled, employing against the desolation the devices, as is said in the sixth Rule.
Episode Ten of The Discernment of Spirits: Setting the Captives Free focuses on Rule Eight, which teaches that patience is the key virtue in time of spiritual desolation. Fr. Timothy Gallagher, in conversation with Kris McGregor, explains how Ignatian patience is not passive endurance but an active, hope-filled perseverance.
Fr. Gallagher begins by clarifying what Ignatius means by patience. The word comes from the Latin patior, meaning to suffer, to bear, and to endure without giving up. In desolation, patience means staying the course. Prayer continues even when it feels dry. Commitments remain even when energy is gone. Love is chosen even when it requires great effort.
To illustrate this virtue, Fr. Gallagher turns to the spiritual journal of Elizabeth Leseur. In the midst of physical suffering, emotional struggle, and deep interior darkness, Elizabeth writes of a will unshakably turned toward God. Though she feels no consolation, she continues in prayer, work, charity, and love. Her example reveals the deep strength that patience forms in the soul.
Fr. Gallagher explains that Rule Eight applies in very concrete situations. A person begins a time of prayer and immediately feels dryness. Everything urges shortening the prayer or giving up altogether. Another feels tempted to withdraw from a parish commitment or retreat that once brought great joy. In these moments, Ignatius gives clear guidance. Stay. Finish. Do not abandon what was freely chosen before the desolation began.
Ignatius then offers a powerful help for perseverance. The person in desolation is to think that consolation will soon return. Desolation lies by telling the heart that the darkness will last forever. Ignatius counters this lie with truth. Consolation does return. It re