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A skeptic-turned-owner says Skinwalker Ranch may hide something far stranger than folklore. In this condensed recap of American Alchemy, Jesse Michels talks with Brandon Fugal about UFO sightings, electromagnetic anomalies, the hitchhiker effect, cattle mutilation, and the possibility of a hidden structure or signal under the mesa. Fugal explains how the 512-acre Utah site challenges science, media literacy, and even national security conversations, while also pointing to spiritual and consciousness-based explanations. Hear the key claims, the strongest evidence, and the biggest unanswered questions from the full interview in a much shorter listen. Listen now to get the key ideas in minutes.