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Most people think mobility means stretching.

Matt Phili is here to tell you that's only a small piece of the puzzle.

In this episode, Kaitlyn sits down with the founder of Primal Mobility to discuss why so many people continue to struggle with chronic pain despite stretching, foam rolling, and trying every "fix" under the sun.

Matt breaks down the real difference between flexibility and mobility, why strength in end ranges matters, and how limitations in areas like the ankles, hips, and thoracic spine can create pain throughout the entire body.

They also dive into:

• Why your hips may not actually be "tight"
• The surprising relationship between chronic pain and the nervous system
• Why fear of movement can keep injuries lingering for years
• The truth about Jefferson curls, knee-over-toe training, and "dangerous" exercises
• How Matt built Primal Mobility from rock bottom while supporting his family
• Why movement is one of the most powerful tools we have for improving both physical and mental health

Whether you're a CrossFit athlete, someone dealing with nagging aches and pains, or simply want to move and feel better for life, this conversation will completely change the way you think about mobility.

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