Episode Details

What Happens When You're Not in the Room? - Leadership, Media, and Writing Insights #leadership #management #software

Book reveal - Jon Berger's new book on leadership and management, What Happens When You Are Not In The Room? comes out on the 1st September 2026.

In this episode, Anne Currie and mission critical software and leadership veteran Jon Berger explore the nuances of leadership, the art of writing books, humour in professional communication, and media representations of leadership. They delve into the importance of leading through influence rather than presence, the joys and challenges of authoring, and the relevance of leadership in TV, film, and fiction.

Key Topics:

• The core idea that leadership occurs primarily when you're not in the room
• The significance of influencing others to achieve results
• The concept of leadership at scale versus micro-managing
• Jon Berger’s new book: What Happens When You Are Not In the Room?
• The value of humor and storytelling in professional writing
• Personal reflections on mistakes and learning as a leader
• Leadership as a collective effort, akin to assembling a team or a story
• Leadership lessons drawn from TV shows, films, and books
• The importance of encouraging everyone in an organization to be a leader
• The process and motivation behind writing a book

We'll send you a bonus chapter of the book by signing up at JonBergerLeadership.com

Episode transcript