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Today's conversation is with David Buttrey, Co-Founder and President of Mangrove, an executive who has generated more than $250 million in economic value through strategic partnerships spanning India, Canada, the United States, South Africa, the Middle East, and Europe.

After building a successful career in entertainment and business development, David has shifted his focus toward the intersection of Bitcoin, digital assets, artificial intelligence, and what he believes will become the next evolution of financial infrastructure.

In this episode, David shares his perspective on Bitcoin's recent selloff, where he believes the market could be headed over the next twelve months, and why self-sovereignty remains one of the most important principles for anyone participating in the digital asset ecosystem.

We discuss the importance of staying disciplined in a world increasingly driven by hype cycles, trends, and short-term narratives.

David explains how he filters signal from noise while building for the long term and why conviction often matters more than prediction.

The conversation then turns to AI and the future of finance. David shares his views on whether traditional SaaS businesses are being disrupted, how agentic systems could reshape financial services, and which individuals and companies stand to benefit most from this shift.

We also explore what Mangrove is building at the intersection of Bitcoin, digital assets, and AI-powered finance, along with the challenges of earning trust in crypto, convincing early supporters to take a chance on a new vision, and navigating uncertainty while building something ambitious.

David reflects on lessons learned throughout his career, ideas he has changed his mind about over the past year, and how creator-driven financial products could enable people to monetize their insights and share their trades in entirely new ways.

We close with a discussion on success, impact, and the advice David would give to those entering the worlds of crypto, automated trading, and emerging technologies today.

Timestamps:

00:00 – Intro & David's Background

00:55 – Creating $250 Million in Economic Value in Entertainment & Transitioning to a Career in Bitcoin, Crypto, and AI

11:02 – Bitcoin's Recent Sell Off and 12 Month Outlook

14:29 – Self-Sovereignty, "Not Your Keys, Not Your Coins"

15:53 – Staying Disciplined Without Chasing the Latest Trend

18:40 – The Future of AI Finance: Is SaaS Really Dead and What Role Will Humans Play?

22:24 – Who Will Win and Lose in the Age of Agentic Finance?25:50 – What David is Building at the Intersection of Bitcoin, Digital Assets, and AI/Agentic Finance

29:07 – Overcoming Challenges

30:22 – Rebuilding Trust In Crypto

32:09 – Convincing Early Investors, Backers & Supporters

33:26 – Something David Has Changed His Mind On About AI and Digital Assets Over The Past Year

37:15 – The Trading Creator Economy: Monetizing Your Trading Strategies & Knowledge

40:15 – Advice for Those New to Crypto and Automated Trading

43:48 – David's Version of Success & Impact

45:10 – Where To Find David and Follow Along as He Builds Mangrove

About David:

David Buttrey is the Co-Founder and President of Mangrove. Throughout his career, he has generated more than $250 million in economic value through strategic partnerships and business development initiatives across multiple industries and geographies. Today, he is focused on building at the intersection of Bitcoin, digital assets, artificial intelligence, and agentic finance.

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