Episode Details

Fred Turner is the Founder and CEO @ Curative, one of the wildest stories in tech. Fred scaled a COVID testing business from $0 to $5BN in revenue and took the team from 7 to 7,000 employees in just 9 months. They did over 206,000 COVID tests in a single day and signed contracts in the 100s of $Ms with several of the largest states. Today, Curative is a unicorn health insurance business taking on the incumbents for one of the largest markets in healthcare. 

AGENDA:

00:00 How Did a Spare-Time COVID Test Become a $5BN Business?

07:00 How Do You Go From Testing Cows to STDs, Sepsis and COVID?

21:00 When Did Fred Realise COVID Was Massive—and How Did Curative Scale to $5BN?

36:00 Why Pivot Into Health Insurance—and What Is Broken About US Healthcare?

40:00 How Is AI Rebuilding Curative—and Which Departments Go to Zero?

45:00 Is SaaS Dead? Why Is Curative Cutting 80% of Its Software Spend?

48:00 Are Legacy Insurers Screwed? What Will Anthropic Be Worth in Three Years?

59:00 Will AI Make Companies Smaller? Which Jobs Will Survive?

1:10:00 Why Nuclear—and Could Subcritical Become Bigger Than Curative?

1:17:00 What Have Marriage and Fatherhood Taught Fred? What Has He Changed His Mind On?