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Betty Kwan Chinn, founder of the Betty Kwan Chinn Homeless Foundation, had an unforgettable encounter with Pope Leo XIV—invited personally to Rome, she was so moved she couldn’t speak for hours. He charmed her with his kindness and warm eyes, even prompting her to joke about Chicago’s talent and kiss his ring—something she didn’t know was allowed. The Vatican had followed her story, including her memoir and documentaries, and after verifying the invitation (which she initially doubted), she traveled with her non-Catholic son, who was thrilled. Though she usually keeps her faith private, this moment felt too sacred to hide—she’s deeply grateful for the gifts and the trust of those who let her serve them.

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