Episode Details

Episode: 145

A conversation about why burnout isn't caused by overwork but by the number of identities a person tries to hold at once. The discussion moves through the stages of recognizing burnout, why balance and juggling don't actually work, and what it takes to prioritize down to what matters.

Jamie Shanks has built and scaled three agencies over his career and now leads Get Levrg, a company built around offshore talent and systemized leverage. As host of Outsource to Profits, he brings that same operator's lens to conversations about running lean, scalable businesses.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamestshanks/

Kiran Mann is CEO of Brar's, a Canadian food manufacturing and restaurant chain, and Founder of M2M Business Solutions Inc., a consulting and advisory firm. She works with leaders on closing the gap between business success and personal fulfillment.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kiranmann23/

Two founders trade stories on burnout. The kind that comes from juggling too many identities at once. Kiran Mann walks through her own reckoning around age 40, the failed attempts at "balance" and "juggling," and the moment she landed on prioritizing instead. Along the way, she unpacks the guilt that shows up when you finally try to change, and why the people around you resist that change too.

• Why the usual fixes for burnout don't actually fix anything
• The three-stage pattern most people go through before they change
• What happens the first time you try to protect your own time
• Why the people closest to you might resist you changing
• A word that replaced "balance" and "juggle" for one CEO
• The physical warning signs that show up before burnout hits

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