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Middle managers are the “burger middle” of every organization, the layer that holds everything together and actually makes strategy happen. Yet they’re often under-supported, stretched thin, and expected to have all the answers without the tools or space to lead well. Today’s guest, Sally Foley-Lewis, global leadership expert and creator of The Burger Framework for Middle Managers, has helped more than 20,000 managers worldwide boost performance, engagement, and productivity by focusing on the right “ingredients” of effective leadership.In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Sally breaks down her Burger Framework, where each burger ingredient represents a key leadership capability. The “protein” stands for values, the non-negotiable core that keeps leaders grounded in integrity, especially during crises and organizational pressure. The “cheese” represents self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and maturity, the “melted” element that pulls everything together and prevents leaders from becoming disconnected, reactive, or clueless about their impact. Sally shares powerful transformation stories of middle managers who had drifted away from their values, were worn down by culture, or believed they had to fully adopt the organization’s values and force them on their teams. Once they reconnected with their own values and opened up space for their people to bring their whole selves to work, they saw dramatic changes in morale, retention, and discretionary effort. Through metaphors like the tomato for communication, Sally shows how mid-level leaders can inspire down, collaborate across, and influence up, moving from “dump and run” communication to intentional messaging that motivates, aligns, and earns trust. The conversation also tackles the growing anxiety around AI and the future of middle management. Sally reframes AI not as a leadership replacement, but as a productivity tool that can clear away the boring, repetitive, systematized tasks so managers can double down on what only humans can do: coach, connect, influence, and lead with empathy. She highlights how companies like Microsoft are signaling an even greater need for human-centric leadership as AI adoption increases, and shows middle managers how to leverage technology while strengthening, not eroding, their role. https://youtu.be/00ccvpaJqDI?si=5zybcveQcWwLtprt Finally, Sally offers one simple but game-changing piece of advice that underpins everything: slow down. Most middle managers are not in emergency rooms making life-or-death calls. By slowing the pace, they create space to think, ask better questions, check for gaps, and role-model a healthier, more thoughtful way of working. If you’re a middle manager feeling squeezed from all sides, or an executive who wants real ROI from leadership development, this episode will help you see why the “middle of the burger” is where your organization’s true power lies, and how to unlock it. Quotes: “As a middle manager, you’re in the most powerful position in the organization, you get to inspire down, collaborate across, and influence up.” “As a leader, you set the pace. If your pace is a race, it might not go so well, people will copy what they see, not what you say.” “When we know our values and walk in alignment with them, we walk with integrity, they keep us strong, especially in times of crisis and challenge at work.” Contact Details: Follow Sally Foley-Lewis on Instagram Explore Sally Foley-Lewis' Programs and Start Leading with Greater Impact Today Follow Middle Managers Matter and Transform the Way You Lead on Facebook Connect with Sally Foley-Lewis To Gain Practical Leadership Strategies on LinkedIn Subscribe to Sally Foley-Lewis on YouTube and Unlock Your Leadership Potential