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The much-awaited NATO summit in Turkey has begun, and Trump went in firing off all the usual threats, statements and attacks that generated ... the usual headlines. But behind the Trump show, there are real stories to be told about what this summit is about. And they mostly come out of the quiet places where Trump isn't, where other NATO members are coming to realise the opportunity that a US exit gives them to completely reimagine how they plan to fight a future war. Let's discuss.