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Europe still relies on the U.S. for defense for at least five to ten years, says Belgium’s Defense Minister Theo Francken, warning that while America remains indispensable, leaders must tread carefully—especially around Donald Trump. Francken condemned Trump’s recent jabs at Italian PM Giorgia Meloni, calling her the “queen of center-right in Europe” and labeling Trump’s photo joke as reckless and diplomatically damaging. Amid rising tensions and Russia’s threat, European nations are scrambling to boost defense spending and unify their arms markets, but Belgium’s own budget falls short of NATO’s goals. Francken insists diplomacy is key: Europe must strengthen itself without alienating its most vital ally.

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