Episode Details

In the western United States and Canada, this time of year is the beginning of peak wildfire season, a reality that's become impossible to ignore. In light of this, we're re-releasing my conversation with energy and climate policy expert Michael Wara on the future of wildfire management. Michael walks us through how we got here, why fires are burning bigger and more frequently, and what a smarter, more proactive approach to managing our landscapes might look like. Whether you're in a fire-prone region or simply paying attention to the changing climate around you, this one is well worth another listen.

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Chapters:

(00:00:00) Introduction

Russ Altman introduces guest Michael Wara, a wildfire expert and professor of law at Stanford University.

(00:02:05) Journey to Wildfire Research

How Michael’s clean energy work led to wildfire research.

(00:03:36) Communities at the Frontlines

The community-level challenges and responsibilities in fire prevention.

(00:05:53) Shifting Community Perspectives

How awareness is rising but state efforts remain misaligned.

(00:08:17) Legacy Homes, Modern Risk

Why older homes pose a major risk and retrofitting is crucial.

(00:09:55) Utility-Led Safety Limitations

The significant but insufficient progress utilities have made.

(00:13:23) Targeting High-Risk Areas

How utilities now prioritize high-risk areas for safety upgrades.

(00:14:30) Insurance Industry Realities

Why insurers can't price risk without crashing markets.

(00:17:19) Urban Wildfires

How today's major fires in suburbs are mostly fueled by homes.

(00:22:12) The Climate Change Multiplier

The impact of atmospheric dryness and fuel moisture on fire risk.

(00:24:45) New Fire Regulations

Recent mandates that have been implemented to decrease fire risk.

(00:28:17) Rethinking Wildfire Communication

Why better messaging is key to changing homeowner behavior.

(00:31:52) Conclusion