Episode Details

I'm still not feeling great, but today's guests and subject matter were too important to postpone.

Julia Angwin and Ami Fields-Meyer are the authors of the brand-new book On Courage: How to Be a Dissident in an Age of Fear. Julia's a longtime tech journalist, Ami worked on tech policy in the Biden White House, and together they interviewed over 100 people across five continents about what it actually takes to resist authoritarianism — and it's not what you think. We talk about building a "political home," the concept of a "belief cascade," and why the celebrities going quiet on us might matter more than we realize.

Then Spocko calls in and we dig into QUI TAM lawsuits, Katie Fang's case against Todd Blanche over the Epstein files, and — I promise this is real — the Onion officially taking ownership of Infowars tonight.