Episode Details

Last time, we asked, “What happens when music stops being content and becomes an experience?” and we ended the episode with an invitation to “Close your eyes and listen.”

Today we explore what happens when you accept that invitation, when we learn to really listen?

What happens when we stop treating music as background noise and begin experiencing it as something capable of changing the way we see—and hear—the world?

In the second half of this conversation, Dr. Scott Catey welcomes back vocalist, composer, and producer Karo Glazer and immersive audio producer Michal Rosa-Rosicki of RED Producers to explore music as a source of wonder, creativity, and human connection.

The conversation begins with Karo’s remarkable journey to Abbey Road Studios, where performing in the legendary Studio Two became not simply a career milestone but a deeply personal encounter with musical history. From there, the discussion ranges across artistic discipline, international collaboration, immersive composition, women in music production, artificial intelligence, and the importance of remaining curious in an age increasingly shaped by algorithms.

Throughout the episode, Karo and Michal return to a simple but profound invitation: close your eyes and listen.

They argue that music is more than entertainment or content. It is a language that transcends borders, a practice of collaboration, and an opportunity to recover the sense of wonder that modern life so often obscures.

The conversation culminates in an unexpected moment as Karo offers an impromptu demonstration of her creative process, building music from breath, voice, and imagination alone—a beautiful reminder that some aspects of music are best understood not through explanation, but through experience. 

Highlights

• Karo’s life-changing performance at Abbey Road Studios

• Why great art still demands patience, discipline, and practice

• Supporting the next generation of musicians through “Road to Abbey”

• International collaboration as a creative philosophy

• The promise—and limitations—of AI in music

• Why immersive audio is ultimately about human presence

• Improvisation, jazz, and the art of listening

• Silence, breath, and space as musical composition

• Women in music production and the Music Is Her Name initiative

• The role of curiosity in sustaining creativity

• A spontaneous live vocal demonstration from Karo

Memorable Moments

• “Music is human.”

• “Practice, practice, practice.”

• “Don’t follow the pattern. Just try to find your way of thinking.”

• “If people tell you it’s wrong... then you should probably go there.”

• “Close your eyes and listen.”

• “Practice, practice, practice.”

• “Never limit yourself. You are more than you think.”

• “Stay creative. Don’t follow any patterns.”

About the Guests

Karo Glazer is a vocalist, composer, producer, and immersive-audio innovator whose work spans jazz, contemporary composition, visual storytelling, and emerging audio technologies. Her performances and productions explore music as a fully immersive artistic experience, combining architecture, movement, and sound.

Michal Rosa-Rosicki is a producer, sound engineer, and immersive-audio specialist whose work focuses on the intersection of composition, technology, and live performance. 

Together they co-founded RED Producers, an international creative production company dedicated to expanding the possibilities of musical experience.

Expanded Artist Bio

Karo Glazer is a powerhouse voice and immersive vocal artist, composing sonic structure through sound, space and presence.

Renowned for her four-octave voice and fearless artistic vision, Karo Glazer creates music that feels both explosive and dee