Episode Details

Each month, Annie and I take a deeper dive into topics and information with an expert to give us more insights on things that we might be incorporating in our clinical practice as well as entrepreneurs and business owners. We're bringing you this snippet today to give you a taste of what these deeper dives are all about.

Every IBCLC has the client who's read every study and is quietly terrified — and our usual instinct (give them more information) often makes it worse. This Deeper Dive brings in a psychotherapist who works with exactly this client to show what's happening underneath and how to change the care plan. Tagline option: "The client who's read everything and trusts nothing. A psychotherapist on what's really going on — and what to do about it.”

Nelia DeAmaral is a Registered Psychotherapist, Brainspotting Consultant, and clinical supervisor in private practice in the Greater Toronto Area, with more than 25 years of clinical experience. As an experienced birth and perinatal professional, she specializes in supporting individuals and families through pregnancy, postpartum, and parenting. In addition to her clinical work, Nelia provides consultation, training, and supervision to therapists and helping professionals, with a focus on women’s mental health and supporting neurodivergent clients. She works from an integrative, attachment-oriented lens, incorporating somatic practices, Brainspotting, and practical tools to help clients and professionals feel more confident, grounded, and effective. Nelia is also a published author and the creator of Emerging Mothers and From Pointer to Pen, programs that integrate reflective writing, community, and healing. Find her at neliadeamaral.com

Connect with Nelia:

• Instagram: @nelia_deamaral — https://www.instagram.com/nelia_deamaral/
• Facebook: Coaching with Nelia — https://www.facebook.com/CoachingwithNelia
• Website: https://neliadeamaral.com

Each month we host a live Deeper Dive so you can connect with us, our special guests, and each other + get lifetime access to the recording!

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About Us

Leah Jolly is a private practice IBCLC with Bay Area Breastfeeding in Houston, Texas.

Annie Frisbie is a private practice IBCLC serving Queens and Brooklyn in New York City and the creator of the Lactation Consultant Private Practice Toolkit.

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