Episode Details

Today, Matt speaks with Micah Loewinger, co-host of WNYC’s On the Media and the reporter behind the new four-part series American Emergency: The Movement to Kill FEMA, about how the agency built to respond to America’s worst disasters became one of its least trusted institutions. Micah explains how he came to FEMA through years of covering far-right militias, why the “FEMA camps” conspiracy theory traces back to the Cold War, and how it disturbingly echoes in today’s migrant detention programs. They dig into the contrast between Hurricane Katrina - a genuine failure that defined FEMA’s reputation - and Hurricane Helene, where the agency performed well but was buried under an unprecedented wave of misinformation. They also cover the political fight over the agency’s future, the strange story of Cameron Hamilton (fired from FEMA, then nominated to lead it), and what it means to head into disaster season with the agency hollowed out.

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Micah Loewinger is co-host of WNYC’s On the Media, a nationally syndicated public radio show heard on more than 400 stations across the country. He joined the show in 2016, first as a producer and then as its first staff reporter, and his work focuses on political extremism, internet culture, and the changing news industry. His investigation into the walkie-talkie app Zello, used by far-right militias ahead of January 6th, won the John M. Higgins Award and was featured on 60 Minutes. His latest project is American Emergency: The Movement to Kill FEMA, a four-part investigation into how the federal agency tasked with disaster response became distrusted, despised, and defunded.

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