Episode Details

Are you a woman going through a divorce who can't afford a lawyer? Did you know you can use AI to help defend yourself?

Listen in as our host, Diane Rolston, sits down with Ana Lissansky, founder of Alice in Legal Wonderland, a platform specifically built for the people the legal system has completely forgotten about.

Diane met Ana at Web Summit when she boldly ran up and pitched herself, and the conversation that followed is one you need to hear.

Listen to learn these key takeaways:

• The staggering reality of what a contested divorce actually costs and why most women in the disadvantaged position just give up and walk away from what they're entitled to
• Why Ana represented herself through a three-year process, including an 11-day trial and what gave her the confidence to do it
• The hallucination problem: why you can't just use ChatGPT for legal matters and what Ana built to solve it
• The legal strategy Ana used that most lawyers deliberately avoid and how it dramatically changed the shape of her trial
• The moment she corrected the judge three times in court and why having the right tools made that possible
• Why there are over 700 AI tools built for lawyers but barely a dozen for the people who actually need help most
• The "forgotten middle": who falls through the cracks of the legal system and why legal aid isn't the answer for most women
• What to say from day one of your case if you're using AI and how transparency actually protects you
• The simulation feature coming to Alice: how it will help you make informed decisions before spending years and thousands of dollars finding out the hard way
• Ana's final message about lawyers, judges, and the accountability gap nobody talks about

Ana’s Bio:

Ana Lissansky has always been an early adopter of technology. Recently, as a single mother navigating a contested divorce, she began using AI tools to support her case because she could not afford a lawyer while facing her ex’s legal team. She self-represented during an 11-day trial and learned firsthand that AI can sometimes generate inaccurate information. That experience inspired her to launch Alice in Legal Wonderland, a not-for-profit organization dedicated to helping self-represented litigants use AI more effectively and responsibly. She is currently building partnerships with verifiable AI companies that prioritize accuracy and transparency by admitting when they “don’t know” instead of generating false information.

Ana’s Social Media links:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lissansky

Website: https://www.aliceinlegalwonderland.com

Sign up to Alice in Legal Wonderland’s waitlist and receive 2 months free access: https://www.aliceinlegalwonderland.com

This show’s host, Diane Rolston, is called THE Expert on Being Dynamic and living a Dynamic Life. After leading hundreds of events and programs in her two businesses, speaking on international stages, being a published author while raising two young children, Diane Rolston knows all about work/life balance and getting things done! As an Award-Winning Coach and the CEO and founder of Dynamic Women®, a global community of women, her purpose is to unlock the greatness in others. Diane works with professionals all over the world to provide clarity, confidence, and action.

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