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Curiosity, gravity, and first-principles physics come together in this condensed take on Shawn Ryan’s conversation with theoretical physicist Sabrina Pasterski. In the full episode, now condensed into a quick listen, Shawn Ryan and Sabrina cover quantum gravity, black holes, holographic universe theory, string theory, and how AI could change scientific research. Sabrina explains celestial holography in plain language, why black holes reveal gaps in our assumptions, and how gravitational waves can leave lasting memory signatures. She also reflects on her unusual path from building airplanes as a kid to MIT, Harvard, CERN, and the Perimeter Institute, while pushing back on hype, fame, and being called “the next Einstein.” The episode also touches on UFOs, Mars, and the line between skepticism and open-minded inquiry. Listen now to get the key ideas in minutes.