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Former Labor foreign affairs minister Gareth Evans is blasting the Aukus submarine deal as one of Australia’s worst foreign policy moves, warning it’s a costly gamble that makes Australia a target by aligning too closely with U.S. defense interests. He argues the U.S. won’t defend Australia unless its own interests are directly at stake, and the deal is really about beefing up U.S. military power against China. Evans also questions the feasibility of the timeline, pointing to U.S. delays and the UK’s struggling defense industry, calling the projected costs speculative and the submarines mere supplementary assets. While the government, led by Foreign Minister Penny Wong, insists the deal is vital for national sovereignty and is moving forward with construction set to begin next year, the independent inquiry — backed by unions and peace groups — is gathering evidence and will release findings in October, intensifying scrutiny over this high-stakes, high-cost agreement.

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