Episode Details

In this Based Camp episode, Malcolm and Simone Collins break down the rapid decline in support for Pride events and LGBT causes. From NPR reporting on corporations pulling sponsorships to Gallup polls showing consistent drops in approval for same-sex marriage and especially gender transition, they explore why public opinion has shifted so dramatically.

They discuss cultural overreach, grooming concerns in schools, transgender issues and violence, the “groomer” label’s effectiveness, and why even many Democrats are turning away. The Collinses offer a nuanced conservative perspective: supporting gay rights as a private matter while rejecting enforcement on others, and arguing why keeping competent gay conservatives in the broader movement makes strategic sense.

Plus: family moments with Octavian, the evolution of Pride from fun to corporate/ugly, birth rates and political heritability, Don’t Say Gay bill realities, and a deep dive into the Bricks & Minifigs scandal.

Episode Transcript

Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. Today we are going to be talking about how corporations- Oh ... have stopped supporting sort of the wider gay and LGBT agenda, to the extent that NPR, NPR of all places, wrote an article titled, and I just have to show you the cover image on this article.

It’s hilarious.

Simone Collins: Okay.

Malcolm Collins: Pride celebrations struggle as corporate sponsorships dry up.

Simone Collins: Oh

Malcolm Collins: Oh, yeah, also, also

Simone Collins: in this And this coming at Pride Month when like... Yeah,

Malcolm Collins: sad ‘Cause it’s exactly who you expect.

Just like the image, the people in the image is like, oh my God, I wanna hate

Simone Collins: these people so much.

Oh, hold on, I’m looking. Oh, boy. No, if that’s what Pride is now, let’s just let it go. Sorry though, we loved the glasses. We loved the glasses, but we,

Malcolm Collins: you know. This is w- hold on, it’s not just that. This is the only other picture in the article, too.

Fat old women is, is what I guess Pride is now. Oh,

Simone Collins: no, [00:01:00] no.

It’s- No ...

Malcolm Collins: fat misshapen old women

Simone Collins: No. I will nev- the first time I ever came across, across a Pride parade, I was in Cape Cod I think it’s Provincetown, or Princetown? Provincetown. But yeah, in Cape Cod, and I didn’t, we didn’t know that there was a Pride parade. We were camping there I was camping there with a, a friend and her dad.

And then just on the main street of Provincetown just was this really cool parade, and the most beautiful women I had ever seen. And I was stunned and amazed, and I, I didn’t know why all these beauty queens were suddenly marching along this picturesque New England street. And it turns out they were just all drag queens, and that was it.

I loved, I loved it. I loved it all. I thought it was the best thing in the world. And what has it become now? I mean, like in the past 10 years it’s been like the Bank of America float, and then a bunch of like ugly people on it. Like that, what is that? Who made Pride ugly? Like, no, Pride was always hot.

Pride was always fun. Pride meant like f- [00:02:00] cool, fun, entertaining, sometimes salacious stuff, but often like more wholesome than anything else. I’m kind of glad that whatever Pride become is dying, and I think that’s kind of how everyone feels, which is why it’s plummeting in popularity.

Malcolm Collins: So we’re going to be talking about this, and the other thing we’re gonna be talking about is some recent statistics that came out that show a rapid reduction in the support of things li