Episode Details

In this episode, I sit down with Brian Baumal — registered psychotherapist, owner of Aliva Psychotherapy in Toronto, and someone who has navigated his own recovery from exercise bulimia and binge eating disorder.

With nearly 14 years of maintaining a 100-pound weight loss and decades of clinical experience, Brian brings a uniquely grounded perspective to one of the most undertalked challenges in food addiction recovery: perfectionism.

Here's what we cover in the episode: The difference between perfectionism and toxic perfectionism — and why the distinction matters in recovery

Why food addicts are especially prone to black-and-white thinking — and how it fuels the cycle of shame after a slip

What the abstinence violation effect is and how to interrupt it before it spirals into full relapse How to build an abstinence plan that empowers rather than restricts — and why arbitrary food rules do more harm than good Why shame — not health — is usually the real driver behind wanting fast results, and how slowing down actually supports long-term healing

What a non-perfectionistic, compassionate response to a slip looks like in real time

The "sleeping dragon" reframe — and why it shifts the recovery conversation from powerlessness to conscious choice

Why "good enough" is not a compromise in food addiction recovery — it may be the whole point

If you've ever spiraled after a slip, struggled to hold structure without rigidity, or felt like your own inner critic was the biggest obstacle to your recovery, this conversation will give you a completely new framework for understanding perfectionism — and a more compassionate path forward.

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00:00 – Intro

00:53 – Meet Brian Baumal

02:11 – The Tension Between Structure & Being Human

04:10 – Brian's Personal Recovery Story

08:27 – Perfectionism vs. Toxic Perfectionism

09:53 – Why Beating Yourself Up Is the Worst Thing You Can Do

11:04 – Why Recovery Is Not About Weight

12:20 – How Brian Builds an Abstinence Plan

14:26 – The Wheel of Fortune Approach to Trigger Foods

18:01 – Monitoring Progress: Food Volume & Food Noise

21:00 – If I Ever Say No Almonds, Fire Me

22:49 – Using Slips as Data, Not Failure

24:26 – How Brian Addresses Shame in the Therapy Room

26:10 – Shame Is a Computer Virus

28:03 – Why You Really Want to Lose Weight Fast

29:31 – Trading Short Term Results for Long Term Freedom

32:42 – What a Non-Perfectionistic Response to a Slip Looks Like

33:27 – Why Brian Tells Clients Not to Stop Mid-Binge

34:22 – Reaching Out Is Already a Win

37:08 – Deconstructing the Slip: Gathering the Data <