Episode Details

President Trump recently suggested that a proposed $1.8 billion compensation fund for alleged victims of government "weaponization" may not be dead after all. Listen here as Michael is joined by attorneys Michael Van Der Veen and William Brennan, who represented Donald Trump during his second impeachment trial and later defended numerous January 6 defendants. They argue that many January 6 participants were overcharged, politically targeted, and suffered devastating personal and financial consequences. Smerconish challenges their claims, presses them on comparisons to the George Floyd protests, and asks whether compensation for January 6 defendants is justified—or politically motivated itself. Original air date 4 June 2026. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.