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Immigration, labor, and national identity collide in this sharp Breaking Points recap of the Delaney Hall protests. In the full episode, Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti speak with economist Orin Cass about what the New Jersey protests reveal about citizenship, border enforcement, sanctuary cities, E-Verify, reshoring, and the “college for all” model. This condensed version cuts the original full-length conversation down to a few minutes, highlighting Cass’s argument that America should put citizens first by restoring the meaning of citizenship, enforcing workplace rules, and linking economic security with national security. You’ll come away with the key ideas behind the immigration debate, the politics of labor shortages, and why education reform and economic inequality keep resurfacing in the same conversation. Listen now to get the key ideas in minutes.