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Former VP Mike Pence delivers a sharp ideological warning to the GOP, arguing that Trump’s populist turn—tariffs, isolationism, grievance-driven policy—is straying from core conservative principles. While acknowledging Trump’s early conservative wins, Pence insists the party must anchor itself in constitutionalism and individual liberty, not just reaction to political anger. He frames this as a defining battle: old-school conservatism vs. the new right-wing populism—and warns that without principle, conservatism collapses.

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