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Back to Episodes“Comment on “Banning Said Achmiz”” by Zack_M_Davis
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1. Prologue
"If I Can't Explain It to Said Achmiz, I Probably Don't Understand It"
This post isn't really about him, but I'd like to begin with a tribute to my friend Said Achmiz, the wisest person I know.
The choice of adjective is deliberately chosen as term of art. Achmiz is not the most quick-witted, nor the most knowledgable, nor the most creative, nor the most savvy. I say wise because the nature of his peculiar talent is the same one ascribed to Socrates: he knows what he doesn't know.
Most people don't. At least, I don't. All too often, when asked, "Do you get what I'm saying?", I reply, "I think so," with perfect sincerity, only realizing later that I was lying—that I could not have paraphrased my interlocutor's ideas, let alone explained where I agreed or disagreed with them. In retrospect (and only in retrospect), it's clear that I didn't want to disrupt the harmonious give-and-take flow of social exchange, that I feared being seen as foolish or obstinate for having the temerity to say, "No, I don't understand"—and to continue standing by that No should understanding not be forthcoming.
The [...]
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Outline:
(00:10) 1. Prologue
(00:13) "If I Can't Explain It to Said Achmiz, I Probably Don't Understand It"
(04:21) 2. The Ban Contradicts Less Wrong's Stated Values
(04:27) An Inversion of Values
(10:10) If "Every Individual Owns Their Own Judgment of You", Then the Ban Rationale Is Untenable
(12:55) The Ban Reneges on LessWrong 2.0's Single Locus of Discussion Mandate and Archipelago Doctrine
(20:27) 3. The Case for the Ban Rests on Misrepresentations
(20:33) Misrepresentations in Habryka's Analysis of Achmiz's Comments
(25:17) Misrepresentations in Habryka's Claims of Alleged Author Complaints About Achmiz
(35:22) Misrepresentations in Habryka's Characterization of Achmiz on Obligations to Reply
(39:59) 4. The Ban Was Unnecessary
(40:03) User-Level Bans Are a Sufficient and Less Intrusive Remedy
(44:00) Effort Ratios Are Logically Irrelevant
(47:19) 5. The Founding Values Have Not Been Refuted
(48:16) Ideological Turing Test-Passing Is Not an Argument
(51:46) Fortitude Is a Rationalist Skill
(55:53) 6. What I Think Is Actually Going On
(56:41) Achmiz's Detractors Accuse Him of Passive-Aggression
(57:55) ... But It's Hard to Believe That Open Disdain Would Be Better
(01:03:58) The Real Rule Is to Cover for the Ingroup
(01:09:13) Preventing "Relitigation" Is a Pretext for Suppressing Dissent
(01:15:58) 7. Conclusions and Recommendations for Readers
(01:16:04) LessWrong 2.0 Has Forfeited Its Intellectual Legitimacy
(01:20:26) LessWrong 2.0 Is a Website, Not a Culture or an Authority
(01:23:50) Speak the Truth, Even If Your Voice Trembles
The original text contained 47 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.
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First published:
May 30th, 2026
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/HaH9mTdKt8pcNAtYn/comment-on-banning-said-achmiz
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