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Dumb.co is flipping the script on smartphone culture by selling flip phones designed to help people reclaim social and spiritual freedom through intentional disconnection. Starting with bare-bones devices, they’ve upgraded to the TCL Flip 2 with essential apps like messaging and maps. CEO Danny Hogenkamp, once a tech exec, discovered productivity and creativity surged when his team ditched phones — even jokingly adopting a flip phone himself. Backed by research, he’s now building a movement to make dumbphones mainstream, aiming for fourth-largest phone company status in the U.S. With open-source materials and no social media ads, they’re relying on word-of-mouth and viral moments to spread the message: moderation over mindless scrolling.

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