Episode Details

In episode 68, Jonathan Stern hosts Sagar and Sahil Chopra, founders of Empower Sleep, to unpack why sleep care is still fragmented, slow, and overly dependent on single-night testing. They explain how Empower uses multi-night diagnostics, wearable integrations, coaches, and clinicians to build a fuller picture of what is actually driving poor sleep. They also discuss how weight loss, GLP-1s, alcohol, congestion, and physiology changes can alter sleep therapy over time. Finally, they explore how Hims could enter sleep through diagnostics, targeted treatments, cash-pay CPAP, and AI-enabled longitudinal care.

00:59 - Background on Empower Sleep

07:41 - Why sleep care is broken

11:12 - The single-night testing flaw

15:02 - Medical-grade sensors vs wearables

20:08 - Empower’s patient journey

28:29 - The sleep market opportunity

36:29 - How Hims could enter sleep

46:02 - Future of sleep tech

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