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*FOR PART I of this interview, please go to the Reinforcing Conversations Podcast

Grab a cold one and pull up a chair! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by a powerhouse duo shaking up the behavior analysis space: Nicole Stewart and Christina Torres, creators of the Reinforcing Conversations podcast. This is a pod-swap, so part I of this convo starts on the Reinforcing Conversations platform. Please do check it out.

Nicole and Christina are known for their honest, unfiltered dialogue and deep reflection on the ethics of real-world practice. In this "pour," the crew moves past the rigid, compliance-based textbook jargon to focus on what it truly means to center humanity while still honoring the science. They dive into the realities of modern clinical practice, the nuances of trauma-assumed care, and how to build an authentic professional brand without losing your mind.

In this pour, we are serving up:

• Textbook vs. Reality: Why standard "one-size-fits-all" behavior protocols fail in the field, and how to individualize affirming care.
• Trauma-Assumed Practices: Shifting the focus from strict behavioral compliance to fostering true safety, assent, and belonging.
• Building an Authentic Brand: Christina shares her journey as a self-made entrepreneur and how she uses social media to make ABA accessible.
• Navigating Field Burnout: Honest talk on setting boundaries, advocating for yourself, and upholding ethical supervision standards.

Whether you are a seasoned BCBA, an RBT in the trenches, or a business owner trying to steer the future of therapy, this episode delivers the straight talk you need—minus the boring jargon.

Tune in, drink up, and always analyze responsibly!

Connect with the Guests:

• Listen to their podcast: Reinforcing Conversations on Spotify
• Follow on Instagram: @reinforcing.conversations

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