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EP. 403 | That Terry Butcher Episode: Maradona’s Hand Of God, Italia ’90 Stories & Bloodied Shirts
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On this week’s episode of That Peter Crouch Podcast, Pete, Chris, and Sids are joined by one of England’s toughest ever players… Terry Butcher.
From THAT iconic blood-soaked shirt to facing Diego Maradona at the height of his powers, Terry takes us right inside the chaos, passion, and brutality of football in the 80s and 90s.
The lads dive deep into Italia 90, the legendary England dressing room, Gazza stories, Bobby Robson’s management style, and why Terry believes modern football has “gone soft”. There’s also incredible insight into what it actually felt like playing against Maradona during the infamous Hand of God match in 1986 — including what happened when Terry confronted him afterwards.
Away from football, Terry opens up emotionally about his son Christopher, his battle with PTSD after serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the powerful ITV documentary Invisible Wounds. It’s one of the most honest and moving conversations we’ve ever had on the podcast.
Plus: shirt-swapping disasters, Escape To Victory, Dwight Yorke in Australia, and why footballers should stop pulling their socks down.
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Be sure to watch Invisible Wounds, which will air on ITV and ITVX in June, ahead of England’s World Cup opener v Croatia on June 17th.
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00:00 - Eurovision chat and Wembley FA Cup stories
02:04 - Chris and Sids wind Pete up about Wembley
03:55 - John Terry sends Pete a Ruud Gullit surprise video
05:26 - Terry Butcher joins the podcast
06:25 - Inside the legendary Italia 90 England camp
08:03 - Why England never expected to win Italia 90
09:24 - England training sessions were “harder than matches”
11:28 - Terry explains his mentality playing for England
13:23 - “The game’s gone soft” starts here
14:00 - The full story behind the bloodied shirt
15:34 - Why Terry refused to come off injured
17:28 - “Every header felt like a squelch”
18:20 - Terry reacts to fans dressing up as him
19:47 - Life at Rangers and Old Firm madness
22:46 - Terry relives the Hand of God match
24:21 - Hearing England scream “HANDBALL!” at Maradona
25:30 - Terry confronted Maradona after the game
26:40 - Was Maradona the greatest ever?
28:11 - What made Bobby Robson special
29:34 - Terry’s issues with modern footballers
30:40 - Can England finally win another World Cup?
31:33 - Finding out England call-ups on Ceefax
32:10 - Why Terry hates energy gels on the pitch
33:04 - Terry opens up about his son Christopher
35:13 - PTSD, grief, and the struggles veterans face
37:19 - How “Combat 2 Coffee” helps veterans talk
40:29 - Terry speaks honestly about grief and crying
42:38 - Listener questions begin
42:59 - Why Terry turned down Escape To Victory
44:11 - The only Argentina shirt Terry ever kept
44:41 - John Terry’s question: best centre-back partner?
46:04 - Managing Sydney FC and Dwight Yorke stories
48:07