Episode Details

Presidents have traditionally waited until their final months in office to give clemency, but just over a year into his second term, President Trump has issued a wave of pardons—including almost 1,600 for January 6th rioters. The New Yorker’s Ruth Marcus says Trump has created a quid-pro-quo “pardon economy,” where pardons are sold for political and personal gain. We’ll talk with Marcus and a former pardon attorney about why they think Trump is setting a dangerous precedent.

Guests:

Ruth Marcus, contributing writer, The New Yorker

Larry Kupers, former pardon attorney, U.S. Department of Justice during the Obama and Trump Administrations

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