Episode Details

You can buy it at a gas station. It's sold next to energy drinks and lottery tickets. And it almost destroyed Matt Dean's life.

Matt Dean had already been through the pill mill era in Florida, cold turkey detoxed off 50-60 Percocet a day, built a career in real estate, and gotten sober from alcohol — twice. Then his little brother died of an overdose. And a well-meaning smoke shop employee handed him a free sample of 7-Hydroxymitragynine.

Within weeks he was spending $100 a day — burning through his 401K and savings — chasing a high from something most people have never even heard of. He went to treatment twice just to get off it. The second time, he had to go back to detox just to get off the Suboxone they gave him to get off the 7-OH.

This is one of the most important episodes of Rise Above to date — because 7-OH was just banned in Florida in August 2025, and something just like it is already taking its place.

In this eye-opening episode, Matt shares:

• Growing up in a sober household and discovering opiates at 18 after surgery
• The pill mill era in Florida and cold turkey detoxing off 50-60 Percocets a day
• Getting sober from alcohol twice — and what kept pulling him back
• Losing his little brother to an overdose and the grief that followed
• How a free gas station sample of 7-OH started a $3,000-a-month addiction
• What 7-OH withdrawal actually feels like — and why treatment centers don't know how to treat it
• His relapse after treatment — and the second rehab stay just to get off Suboxone
• Where he is today with 3+ months clean and what he's building

If you or someone you love is using Kratom or 7-OH and thinks it's "just a supplement" — you need to hear this.

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