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On March 16, 2022, the Russian army committed one of the gravest war crimes of its invasion of Ukraine. It dropped air bombs on the Mariupol Drama Theatre, knowing that around a thousand civilians were sheltering inside, seeking refuge from Russian shelling. It did so despite the huge inscriptions reading “Children” — written in Russian on both sides of the theatre — clearly visible from the air as a warning to any potential bomber. In this episode, we analyse this crime with the help of a journalist who spent several years speaking with dozens of survivors. You are listening to the Explaining Ukraine podcast. *** Explaining Ukraine is a podcast by UkraineWorld, an English-language media outlet run by Internews Ukraine. Host: Volodymyr Yermolenko, a Ukrainian philosopher, Chief Editor of UkraineWorld, and President of PEN Ukraine. Guest: James Verini, an American journalist and book writer who wrote for The New York Times and other papers. He recently published a book, The Theater: Courage and Survival in the Defining Atrocity of the Ukraine War. The book was published this year by Simon & Schuster. Link to the book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Theater/James-Verini/9781668062203 *** Listen on various platforms: https://li.sten.to/explaining-ukraine UkraineWorld: https://ukraineworld.org/en *** SUPPORT: You can support our work on https://www.patreon.com/c/ukraineworld Your help is crucial, as we rely heavily on crowdfunding. You can also contribute to our volunteer missions to frontline areas in Ukraine, where we deliver aid to both soldiers and civilians. Donations are welcome via PayPal at: ukraine.resisting@gmail.com. *** CONTENTS: 0:00 Intro 2:40 Why does the guest call the Mariupol drama theater bombing the "defining atrocity" of the Russian war against Ukraine? 5:48 What made Mariupol particularly vulnerable to the Russian siege and bombardment? 8:51 What were the devastating living conditions for civilians in Mariupol during the siege? 9:48 Why did people consider the Mariupol drama theater a safe shelter, and how was it designated as such? 13:05 How did the theater's staff and volunteers manage to transform it into a functioning refugee shelter for thousands? 15:50 When did the bombardment of the theater occur, and why is it significant that "Children" was clearly written outside? 21:28 What were the immediate consequences of the direct bomb hits on the theater, and how did they cause such lethality? 24:49 How did the journalist connect with and interview dozens of survivors to document their experiences? 31:32 How is Russia attempting to erase the memory and culture of Ukraine in occupied Mariupol? 35:10 What is the historical context of neglecting and building over the dead in Mariupol, and how does it relate to current events? 40:10 How has the Greek heritage of Mariupol been affected by the Russian invasion and occupation? 45:37 What was the significance of the defense of Azovstal in Mariupol's story, and how did it impact civilians? 47:29 What is the final message regarding the Mariupol drama theater bombing and its implications for the war? *** Photo credit (James Verini’s portrait): Larry D. Moore, CC BY 4.0, Wikimedia Commons.