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Episode 91 -  Everbody Else

In Episode 91 of the Pastors in Recovery, Jon opens up about something he misunderstood about himself for years — why certain parts of ministry energized him while other parts emotionally drained him. Why did preaching, mentoring, recovery groups, creativity, and helping people solve problems feel life-giving… while hospital visits, emotionally heavy conversations, and intimate adult interactions often created anxiety and exhaustion? This honest conversation explores:

• performance anxiety in ministry,
• emotional wiring,
• purposeful helping,
• fear of emotionally undefined situations,
• and the hidden danger of using ministry as a safe place to avoid facing our own pain.

Jon shares personal stories from youth ministry, church planting, Celebrate Recovery, and even working tech at Target, where God slowly stretched and grew him relationally over time. This episode is for pastors, leaders, caregivers, and helpers who genuinely love people… but sometimes realize they’ve spent so much time helping everybody else that they forgot how to let God help them too.

Featuring the original song:
🎵 “Everybody Else”

Remember, God meets us in our brokenness… and that’s where the journey of restoration begins.

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