Episode Details

Patrick “Bubba The Midwest McGrady" Kavanagh joins the Free Outside Podcast after surviving Cocodona 250 with less than two hours of sleep, a lot of hallucinations, and peak Midwest politeness.

We talk about passive aid station etiquette, the infamous Cocodona “fight,” hallucinating sepia-toned family photo albums in Sedona, the MBA basketball challenge at Mingus Mountain, why ultrarunning and pickup basketball are culturally identical, and whether Cocodona needs more wildlife, rivalries, and SlamBall.

We also get into:

Why Midwesterners make great ultrarunners

How Cocodona completely changes your understanding of distance

Racing horses in Arizona

Why adult life desperately needs competition

Why every ultrarunner eventually gives up athleticism for exercise

AND

A billion-dollar business idea involving upside down pizza

One of the funniest episodes we’ve recorded.

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