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Tarot isn’t just a mirror for your personal life. It can also be a language for breaking the spell of colonized thinking.

We sit down with Christopher Marmolejo, author of The Red Tarot, to talk about divination as a “literacy of liberation” and what it looks like to read the cards through a queer, trans, decolonial lens. We get honest about how colonization trains us to treat certain kinds of knowledge as “real” and dismiss spirit, ancestors, ritual, and psychic experience as irrational. We also connect this to the Missing Witches Reparations Fundraiser and why reparations are about repair, not charity.

From there, we make it practical. We explore what “colonized” interpretations can sound like in tarot, especially around gender, relationships, and the pressure to predict one correct future. Christopher reframes the Twos in the minor arcana, showing how the Two of Cups can hold fluid identity and two-spirit resonance, how the Two of Swords can reveal dissociation and silence born from trauma, and how the Two of Pentacles can invite you to learn by experience instead of following a rigid map.

We close with a grounding reminder: we don’t know what we don’t know, and staying curious keeps the spirit from getting exhausted. If this conversation helps you spot a blind spot or name a block, share it with a friend, subscribe, and leave a review so more listeners can find Belief Being and Beyond.

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