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The Valladolid Debate: Souls or Gold
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In 1550, a Spanish king ordered a halt to all conquests. He wasn't being kind—he was waiting for an answer. The question: did indigenous Americans have souls? For four months, two men debated before a council of theologians in Valladolid. Bartolomé de las Casas, a Dominican friar, argued that Native peoples were rational beings deserving of freedom. Juan Ginés de Sepúlveda, a humanist scholar, countered that they were 'natural slaves' in need of Spanish mastery. The debate became a landmark in the history of human rights—but its outcome was ambiguous. Conquest continued. Slavery only transformed. In this episode, Lucas and Luna explore the arguments, the personalities, and the legacy of a debate that asked whether empire could ever be just.