Episode Details

For San Diego’s AleSmith, funky Belgian-style mixed-culture beers aged on whole fruit may not be impactful to the bottom line. As brewers, however, they love the process challenge of these multi-phase beers as well as the unique flavors made possible by complex fermentations and highest-quality fruit.

Late last year, our blind panel at Craft Beer & Brewing Magazine^® rated their Handgeplukt Kriek a 98, and our editors we selected it as one of our Best 20 Beers in 2025. Then, at the 2026 World Beer Cup, the beer further cemented its elite status by taking home a gold medal.

In this episode, AleSmith head brewer Anthony Chen walks us through the brewing and maturation process, from ideation and ingredients to step-mash, barrel-aging, maceration, and more. Along the way, he discusses:

• why commercial pitches work better for them then culturing dregs for mixed-culture beer
• how malted and flaked wheat produce more “chunkies”
• using a pre-acidification process to protect the beer in the early stage of fermentation
• avoiding Pediococcus in mixed fermentation
• cherry processing and maceration

And more.

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