Episode Details

What if the dry, weary place you’re in isn’t something to escape—but a place where God is working?

So many of us know that quiet middle space: you’re not in crisis, but you’re not exactly flourishing either. You’re tired, spiritually dry, disconnected, or simply going through the motions. It’s not dramatic enough to call a breakdown, but something in you knows you’re weary.

In this episode, Dr. Alison and author/priest Tish Harrison Warren explore what grows in these weary places—and why seasons of spiritual dryness, burnout, and languishing aren’t signs that something is wrong with you.

They may be part of how God forms you.

Together, they talk about aridity, resilience, stability, and what it means to stay present to the life you actually have instead of constantly looking for a way out.

You’ll discover:

• Why spiritual dryness doesn’t mean you’re failing
• The difference between depression, burnout, and languishing
• What the desert fathers and mothers can teach us about resilience
• Why “staying in your cell” can become a path of formation
• How ordinary repair, routines, and relationships shape us over time
• What it means to let where you are do its work
• How hope changes the way we endure hard seasons

This conversation offers a counter-cultural invitation: you don’t have to rush out of the weary place. There may be something growing there.

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