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“NATO Is Dead”: Robert Pape on Iran, Alliances & the Limits of Force | PBD Podcast
Published 1 month, 1 week ago
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Hook: Strategy, not shock-and-awe, decides whether coercion produces capitulation or stubborn resistance. This condensed take (original ~90 min → new ~20 min) of PBD Podcast episode #795 captures Patrick Bet-David’s wide-ranging interview with Robert Pape (University of Chicago), who bluntly declares “NATO’s dead” and explains why sanctions, strikes, and leadership decapitation often backfire. Listen to learn Pape’s distinctions between tactical success and strategic victory, why broad coalitions (not just military strikes) matter for Iran policy, the risks of bombing and blockade, and how economic shifts reshape alliance credibility. Hosts: Patrick Bet-David; Guest: Robert Pape. Keywords: NATO, Iran policy, sanctions, military strategy, alliances, geopolitics. Listen now to get the key ideas in minutes.