Episode Details

Hook: Does the ADL's 2025 audit really distinguish anti‑Jewish hate from political protest? In this condensed 12-minute version of the full 48-minute episode, hosts Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti sit down with Glenn Greenwald to dissect the Anti‑Defamation League’s methodology, dataset, and legal implications. You’ll learn how routine protest speech—slogans like “Free Palestine” or “From the river to the sea,” swapped flags, campus posts, and private chats—can be auto‑classified as anti‑Semitic, why context matters, and what that means for free speech, censorship, and enforcement on campuses and in federal investigations. Key takeaways include the limits of current hate‑incident definitions, examples from the ADL report that blur politics with prejudice, and the stakes for law and civil liberties. Hosts: Krystal Ball, Saagar Enjeti; Guest: Glenn Greenwald. Listen now to get the key ideas in minutes.