Episode Details

A gripping on-the-ground rescue and a voter walking away from Trump reveal how diplomacy and humanitarian work rewrite the headlines. Original episode ~60 minutes — condensed to ~12 minutes. Hosts Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti sit down with Ahmed Khan, a humanitarian who helped evacuate Afghan allies from Herat, negotiated visas via Mashhad, and reports surprising truths from Iran, Afghanistan, and Gaza. Learn why sanctions and bombings can strengthen, not weaken, political cohesion, how ordinary people respond to war and displacement, and why a three-time Trump voter in Nevada says she’s done. Key takeaways: real-world diplomacy, the human cost of conflict, and shifting domestic political loyalties. Listen now to get the key ideas in minutes.