Episode Details

What does it take to eliminate a state income tax?

Grover Norquist sits down with Oklahoma House Speaker Kyle Hilbert to discuss how Oklahoma is charting a path to a 0% income tax and why other states are beginning to follow.

Oklahoma has reduced rates, simplified its tax code, and established a trigger-based path to zero as revenues grow. The goal is to lower the burden on taxpayers while maintaining responsible budgeting.

They also discuss:

• How Oklahoma built the coalition to pass tax reform
• Why a phased approach to zero is gaining traction
• Tort reform and its impact on insurance costs
• School choice and broader state-level reforms

As more states explore ways to reduce taxes and expand opportunity, Oklahoma offers a clear model for what comes next.