Episode Details

Two excellent communicators. Zero good dates. What is happening out there?

In the finale of this series, Lisa and Heather DeSiena bring the energy way up — because we're talking modern dating, and honestly, it's a lot. These are two women who are accomplished, self-aware, genuinely curious about other humans, and somehow still eating dinner alone. If that's relatable to you, pull up a chair.

In this episode:

• The false abundance mindset — why infinite swiping has trained everyone to never actually invest in anyone in front of them
• The upgrade trap: why "the next one might be better" is keeping everybody perpetually single and perpetually disappointed
• Why nobody asks questions anymore (and why a man who can hold a real conversation in real time is apparently a rare and endangered species)
• Sharp edges vs. soft energy — how building a career in male-dominated spaces quietly rewires how you show up on a first date
• "My standards are too high" — said by people whose marriages Lisa and Heather would absolutely not want
• A live, unscripted matchmaking pitch that you genuinely need to hear to believe

Fair warning: this episode gets a little silly toward the end. There is a Divorce Curious dating game show concept floated, referrals are solicited, and Lisa volunteers to personally vet all candidates. We are not joking. Drop your nominations in the comments.

This is the final episode of the three-part Heather DeSiena series — if you haven't listened to Parts 1 and 2 yet, go back. They're worth it.

And if this whole series has you doing some honest reflecting on your own relationship, grab Lisa's free Evaluate Your Relationship workbook at lisamitchell.biz/podcast. Good questions, zero judgment.

Connect with Heather: Instagram: @heatherdesciena LinkedIn: Heather DeSiena

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