Episode Details

After witnessing the racism her Black students experienced up close on a bus trip to Kentucky, Sharman Spieser’s awareness shifted from understanding how racism operates on an intellectual level to a deeper understanding gained from lived-experience. She reflects on how segregation, isolation, and scarcity thinking operate within a white supremacist capitalist system to keep us apart, and emphasizes the power of building authentic, trusting relationships that create the conditions for honest dialogue to happen as a way of unlearning white supremacy and advancing antiracist social change.

00:00 From Knowing to Understanding

00:45 Systems Keep Us Apart

01:50 White Liberal Doubt of Black People's Lived Experiences

04:00 Book Bans and Backlash

06:07 Show Intro and Mission

07:16 Meet Sharman Spieser

08:24 Early Activations at Work

09:25 Family Modeling Justice

11:30 Kentucky Trip Wake Up

14:02 Listening Not Saving

16:51 Detroit Rebellion Revisited

28:22 Why Truth Triggers White Rage

31:37 Trauma and Openness

32:17 How A Death In The Family Changed Things

33:01 Taking Custody Suddenly

33:49 Mentor Encouragement

35:33 Rebuilding Family Life

37:11 Workplace Lessons On Power

40:19 Retirement Disillusionment

42:42 Scarcity Mindset Exposed

45:26 History Erasure And Violence

47:38 White Privilege Conference

50:14 Whats Up With White Women

52:07 Talking With White Folks

58:03 Finish The Statement

58:32 Influences And Frameworks

01:02:46 Hope Is A Practice

01:04:07 Closing And Credits

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