Episode Details

In this episode of Curiously, Ericka sits with Matt Russell for a conversation that moves between story, faith, and the question of what actually changes us. Matt shares pieces of his own journey, from early experiences in the church to the work he’s done alongside people in recovery, where he began to see that connection often matters more than having the right answers. Together they explore the difference between service and justice, and how belonging often comes before belief. The conversation also touches on the tension many feel with the church today, and the desire for spaces where people can be more honest about their lives. As they talk, there’s a vision of faith that feels more human, where curiosity, vulnerability, and shared experience create room for something deeper to unfold.

Show Notes: 

Project Curate

Iconoclasts

One, by Birdtalker

Upstream Parable is credited to Irving Zola

fact check: the name of the Christian ethicist is Dallas Gingles