Episode Details

In a world of fewer clicks and higher stakes, B2B media is being rebuilt around outcomes, not impressions.

The media industry has spent years optimizing for clicks, traffic, and scale. But in B2B, the stakes are different.

A single decision can involve millions of dollars and require input from 5 to 15 stakeholders. That changes everything about how content is created, distributed, and measured.

At the same time, AI is reshaping how audiences discover information. Fewer clicks. More summaries. More intermediaries. Which means fewer chances to capture attention, but higher stakes when you do.

That’s the shift happening in media that’s beneath the surface of headlines about lawsuits and AI slop. In this episode of The Media Copilot podcast, host Pete Pachal talks with Keith Turco, CEO of Madison Logic, to unpack the shift to better understand how AI is changing not just media, but B2B publishers.

The result is a fundamental shift:  Quality over quantity. Precision over reach. Outcomes over impressions.

For publishers, marketers, and media operators, this is not just a trend. It is a structural change in how value is created.

What we cover

• Why B2B media is moving from impressions to performance-driven outcomes
• The rise of buying groups and how they reshape content strategy
• What “geek chic” means and why measurement is now the differentiator
• How AI acts as a “refiner,” not a replacement, in marketing workflows
• The shift from one-to-many messaging to one-to-one and one-to-few targeting
• Why podcasts and audio are becoming critical in the B2B media mix
• How the “at-work state of mind” blurs personal and professional media consumption
• What publishers are still getting wrong about ROI and measurement
• Why niche, high-intent audiences are more valuable than ever
• The growing role of multi-channel strategies across CTV, social, and audio

About the 👤 Guest  

https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithturco/ 

Learn more about Madison Logic:

🌐 https://www.madisonlogic.com/

🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/company/madison-logic/

🐦 https://twitter.com/MadisonLogic 

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