Episode Details

What if understanding your patterns is not the same as changing them?

In this episode, I’m joined by Rebekah Ballagh, a counsellor, somatic and nervous system coach, and author, to explore the gap between insight and real change. The place where the mind understands, but the body does not yet feel safe enough to follow.

Rebekah shares her experience with panic and illness, and how it revealed the limits of purely cognitive tools. We talk about intellectualising as a form of protection, and explore parts work through the lens of Internal Family Systems, especially the tension between the part that wants to heal and the part that resists.

We also look at the swing between anxiety and freeze, and how patterns that look like avoidance or laziness are often rooted in survival. From there, we unpack somatic practices, what actually works, and why regulation is not about being calm, but about building capacity to stay with what is real.

If you have ever felt stuck despite doing all the work, this conversation offers a more compassionate and embodied way forward.

In this episode:

• 3:53 What Being In Your Body Means 
• 9:45 When Therapy Training Helps And Hurts
• 16:17 Working With The Intellectualiser
• 21:00 Parts Work And IFS Made Simple
• 29:50 Somatics Online And Lost Nuance
• 39:41 Pendulation Titration And Minimum Dose 
• 47:23 Nothing Is Broken In You
• 49:16 Closing Reflections And Inbody Invitation

You can read the full transcript here.

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