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Cas de Morree and Mark Smith unpack why applied AI skills now matter more than prompts. They explore Copilot’s real strength inside work data, the rapid shift towards agents and outcome‑driven systems, and how low‑cost tooling is reshaping productivity. The conversation challenges привычные workflows, highlights why more output does not equal better work, and shows how professionals can rethink email, meetings, automation, and software building using AI that actually integrates into daily work.

👉 For full Show Notes
https://www.microsoftinnovationpodcast.com/822  

 🎙️ What you’ll learn    

• How Copilot’s value changes when it is connected to your work data 
• Why outcome engineering is replacing prompt engineering 
• When AI automation increases noise instead of productivity 
• How agents can replace SaaS tools and reduce recurring costs 
• What applied AI skills look like for consultants and knowledge workers 

 ✅ Highlights   

• “They forgot about the entire plugged into your work data, and that’s what Copilot is good at.” 
• “It was a rough start using Copilot.” 
• “It will keep iterating on a task till it gets to the destination.” 
• “I think this is the start of outcomes engineering rather than prompt engineering.” 
• “We expect all this magic from these new tools.” 
• “Why would you send out meeting notes to everyone?” 
• “It’s insanity.” 
• “I’ve taken over $2,000 of annual cost out of my business SaaS expenses.” 
• “The only limitation is your own creativity at this point.” 

 🧰 Mentioned     

• Microsoft Copilot: https://www.copilot.com/ 
• Microsoft 365: https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-365  
• Microsoft Graph: https://learn.microsoft.com/graph/overview 
• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ 
• Claude (by Anthropic): https://claude.com/ 
• Bitly: https://bitly.com/ 
• RAG systems (Retrieval‑Augmented Generation): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrieval-augmented_generation 
• Microsoft MVP YouTube Series - How to Become a Microsoft MVP - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzf0yupPbVkqdRJDPVE4PtTlm6quDhiu7 

 ✅ Keywords      
ai productivity, microsoft copilot, applied ai skills, outcome engineering, ai agents, automation, microsoft 365, anthropic, claude, openai, knowledge work, business ai 

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Thanks for listening 🚀 - Mark Smith